by Kathy Ishizuka

Question by dapo00777: Health Care Bill Summary; would you pass any of these if you were in CONgress?
Please check this information out and ask yourself if this is the health care reforme YOU want!

Please read this summary. Then you will need to=2 0contact your elected representatives by phone and email.
I HAVE!

Attached is the health care plan pfd file.

Here is what the pres is pushing for:

A question from the state media, “How can Congress pass a bill without even reading it?”
How can Obama push a bill and tell us how great things will be, when he himself says he does not know what specifics are in the bill?
Thank God for the alternative media and the Internet, so that we can read this abomination of a bill for ourselves and see the overall intentions of Dear Leader and his Politburo with this tool to enslave us all.
The bill as written, is no different than an enemy flying planes of civilians into skyscrapers, or setting off a bomb in a crowded city, and needs to be seen as such. No true American would write such a bill whose purpose is to enslave the population, control them completely and kill off “undesirables”.
Those who wrote this abomination of a bill, need to be seen as an enemy more dangerous than Bin Laden and the whole of Jihadist Islam .

Shock: Inside the Healthcare Bill
Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT’s Sunday magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare bill.
It’s worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill? It has Singer’s footprints all over it.

Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman’s)
Pg 22 of the Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you receive.
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill – YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED.
Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your Health care Benefits for you. You have no choice in the decision.
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill – Healthcare will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.
Pg 58 – Govt will have real-time access to individual finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued.
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for direct funds transfers.
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating a Healthcare Exchange to bring private healthc are plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill – Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private Healthcare plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specifics for Benefit Levels of Plans = The Government rations Healthcare based on cost benefits to government.
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill – Govt mandates linguistic appropriation services or translation services for illegal aliens.
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups like ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt Healthcare plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans. #AARP members – your Health care WILL be rationed.
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill – Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid.
pg 124 lines 24-25 No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No “judicial review” allowed against Govt monopoly
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill – Doctors/ AMA – The Govt will dictate what wage you are allowed to make. (Wage limits).
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employers MUST enroll their employees into the public option plan. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE, and neither do the employees.
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay premiums for every employee, part time employees AND their families as well.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with a payroll of 0,000 will have an 8% tax levied on all payroll.
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Employers with payroll between 1,000 & 400,000 who does not provide in full, the public option, will have a 6% tax on all payroll levied.
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC coverage according to Govt mandate, will be taxed at 2.5% of their income for healthcare. So, you will have government healthcare coverage, or you will be punished.
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Administration (GOVT) will have total and complete access to ALL your personal financial, bank and investment information.
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC – “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” Yes, it says that.
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid, Seniors, low income, and poor.
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Wages for all doctors will be made the same. Specialists like Brain Surgeons will make the same money a General Practitioner makes.
PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value o
elwood: you are just like congress. if you would pass this, you could not have read it.
http://help.senate.gov/BAI09A84_xml.pdf
one of six pdfs, have fun!!
tonalc: it is not hard to see that after 100 pages the embelishments are minor. after investigating it myself (before posting it) I see that it is not a true stretch to say that Fleckman might be thinking a year or two down the line, but you are not thinking at all….line by line, where have I heard that before?? right, same place I heard that all bills would be available for view by the public for at least 5 days….how’d that go again on stimulus?

Best answer:

Answer by Elwood Blues
That’s not a summary, it’s a cherry picked list, taken out of context. Under all the health plans Congress is considering, you can keep your same doctor and insurance company if you want to. Your cherry picked list ignores that fact.

If the status quo is worse, I’ll pass the bill.

The fact is that in the USA we pay nearly *twice* what Europeans pay for health care, and we have lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality than most European countries. See http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004393.html

United States —- 6.4 78.0
Canada —- 4.6 80.3

Austria —- 4.5 79.2
United Kingdom —- 5.0 78.7
Denmark —- 4.5 78.0
France —- 4.2 79.9
Germany —- 4.1 79.0
Italy —- 5.7 79.9
Spain —- 4.3 79.8
Sweden —- 2.8 80.6
Switzerland —- 4.3 80.6

Right now, if you’re lucky, your heath care is rationed by an insurance company whose job it is to make a profit for its stockholders.

Which insurance companies have the highest life expectancy? The ones that are best at rejecting people with pre-existing conditions.

Which insurance companies have the highest profit? The ones that are best at denying coverage.

I’m being glib. The truth is you can’t find out things like the life expectancy of clients of a given insurance company. What you can find out is that insurance companies have 20% or more overhead. That means that for every 100 dollars of insurance bought, less than comes back out to pay for health care. Medicare’s overhead is around 2%.
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